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Episode 35: Dean who purchased in Olvera, Cádiz

Episode 35: Dean who purchased in Olvera, Cádiz
Podcast host

Guest

Dean

Host

Vicky Carter

Podcast location

Relocated from

California, USA

To

Olvera

Podcast agent

Real estate company

This week Dean from California shares his experience of buying a property in Olvera. First inspired by Ernest Hemingway’s ‘For Whom the Bell Tolls’, Dean enjoys the mountain views from his terrace, and the chance to travel around Europe from this bolthole. As an owner of multiple properties abroad, we learn some great tips to look out for, including researching, legal support, and renting out the property.

Show Notes:

  • [1:55] How having properties abroad can fund his retirement
  • [4:33] why chose property
  • [5:15] experience of renting out on Airbnb
  • [7:06] The Spanish locals are very warm and welcoming, despite language barriers
  • [9:31] How Olvera Properties helped the buying process for Dean
  • [12:15] How to find the one-off unique rural homes
  • [16:47] Dean’s advice for the things to know before buying abroad
  • [20:15] A typical day for Dean in Spain
  • [23:26] What time of the year does Dean visit his home in Spain
  • [30:10] Dean’s advice to buying in Spain

Links:

Kyero.com

Olvera Properties

 

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Intro


Welcome to the Kyero.com Spanish Property podcast where we interview real people who recently purchased a home in Spain.

They tell us what worked, what didn’t and what they’d do differently next time.

I’m Vicky Carter and today I’m speaking with Dean who is originally from San Francisco, in California. He purchased his new home in Olvera, in the Cadiz area.

Dean is retired and tells me how he manages three different properties: one in France, one in Dominican Republic, and one in Spain. He has created a lifestyle adapted to each country's seasons and benefits that they offer, as well.

He worked with estate agent Olvera Properties to find his dream home in Spain.  

Check out the show notes at kyero.com/podcast to find links and resources mentioned in this episode

Body of Transcript

Dean:  I’m retired for the past couple of years. I have been a sales and marketing person in the Silicon Valley area of San Francisco. For retirement, I was looking for many years at foreign properties, for a number of different reasons: interest for one, and then also the cost of living once I have retired. San Francisco right now, with rents and housing costs, is the most expensive place on the planet. So, when you look at the cost of owning property in a place like Spain, it’s a bargain.

Vicky:  Yes, of course, and then you’ve got more money to actually enjoy yourself when you’re out there and throw yourself into the local activities and the delicious food and wine. So, were you more looking into buying or renting a property?

Dean:  Purchasing. So, I already have a property in Andalucia. I also have a property in France and one in Dominican Republic, and then in two weeks I go down, and I have another property in Punta Cana that I closed escrow on.

Just for an example, the average price of a home in San Francisco is one million eight hundred thousand U.S. dollars. So, if you have owned a home in San Francisco, in that category, retirement might be difficult just in maintenance of the house because property tax, just by itself, would be almost two thousand U.S. dollars a month. So, that makes it very difficult on a retirement budget to have any quality lifestyle. So, I looked, in advance, for many years at changing the game. Obviously, moving abroad can change that for you.

Vicky:  Wow, that is very expensive. So, can I just get this straight? So, you’ve got one property in France, one in Dominican Republic, and also one in the area of Cadiz? Is that correct?

Dean:  That is correct. My property in Spain is halfway between Malaga and Seville, in the area called Pueblos Blancos.

Vicky:  Lovely, you’ve chosen a stunning location. It’s actually postcard perfect, the white washed walls and the hills as well. Why did you choose that property yourself?

Dean:  A couple of reasons, I think, in terms of the novel Hemingway’s For Whom the Bell Tolls is based there. I think the city of Ronda has been appealing to me with the old bridge. What they call the new bridge, which is a couple of hundred years old and then the old bridge is a Roman bridge, fascinated me with the hilltop towns. And then the white washed villages, as you say, are picture postcard pretty. So, just looking at those.

Then once you start to investigate a little bit what’s around the area, there’s just so much to see and do, historically: there's a mix of cultures from the Moors that came over, the castles, the food (as you mentioned) the wine, the bull fighting (if you’re interested in that kind of a thing) But, just the historical monuments and the culture of southern Spain is just a dramatic difference from what we have in the United States, of course. But also I think, for Europe, it’s a spectacular setting.

Vicky:  Wow, yes, so you were inspired by Hemingway's novel and that’s what took you there originally and then you fell in love with the culture that was there as well. That’s fantastic. I was just looking into Cadiz. It’s a really stunning location. I’ve actually been there myself and you’re really close to Sierra de Grazalema Natural Park as well. Is that another thing that swayed you to the location?

Dean:  Well, the mountains are visible from the terrace of my house. The setting is quite beautiful with the mountains. California has quite a few mountains. I think in terms of the scenery, it’s really not that different from California. You can understand why the Spaniards, when they came to America and California, loved that kind of scenery because it’s very reminiscent of that. The rolling hills, the olive vineyards, it is just a very beautiful setting, and then it is generally pretty rural. The way the Spaniards lived is either in the larger cities or in little pueblos - little towns that dot the hillsides or the valleys. So, it’s a very beautiful place to spend the summer.

Vicky:  So, is that another reason that inspired you to go there, the Pueblo lifestyle, the quiet rural summers that you like to spend there?

Dean:  I do a mix of that. My property is also an Airbnb property, so I rent it out. The game for me was, in addition to just having a lovely place to spend a month or two a year, also rent it out and that funds my travel when I’m over in Europe for the summer.

Vicky:  Oh, that’s fantastic. What a great idea. So, out of those three properties, I really want to focus on why you’ve chosen Spain compared to France and Dominican Republic. How does your time in Spain differ to the other locations?

Dean:  Well, I think both France and Spain centres me in Europe, and from Europe... Unlike the United States, which is a fairly vast country, Europe is a lot easier to get around both by train or plane, or even driving between cities and different countries. Spain gave me access to the south of Europe and a warmer climate than France.

Right now, in France, it would be impossible to really live in the house without having the heaters on or the fireplace going. Spain, although they had a cold spell in the last couple of weeks, is generally warmer. So the heat [is a consideration.] Just like a lot of Brits have purchased their homes for their holidays in a warmer climate than what they’re used to, I think, for me, I wanted one location in Europe that had a little bit better weather. So, weather is, obviously, a large consideration.

Spain has a little bit more warmer culture: the graciousness of the Spanish people, adiós and the holas and the things that you get on a daily basis are a little bit more warming and inviting than, I think, the French in terms of accepting a foreigner, an expat who is visiting or living amongst them.

Vicky:  So you found the local people more accepting when you were looking at a property but also when you moved there yourself?

Dean:  Yes, I think on a daily basis, even though the language barrier is there, if you know a little bit of Spanish. I know in the area, in the last month that I was there in August, all the local Spaniards were trying their English on me and were excited. They were trying their best English and wanted to find out where I was from. I think France is a little bit more reluctant to engage you in that way. They take a little bit more time to warm up.

Vicky:  Would you say that is something that you love most about Spanish culture?

Dean:  I think the people are a lot of fun. They are gregarious. The party culture is definitely there. If you go to a city like Malaga or Seville the tapas bars, the siestas in the afternoon so that you can party late into the night; it’s hard to beat that. I think you really have to learn how to adjust your own time clock so that you can take your nap during the day to enjoy the evenings and live the way the Spanish do. So, it’s a different kind of way of living.

Vicky:  Yes, having a siesta before the fiesta. I guess it opens up a whole other light, another way to spend your evenings as well. Did you used to spend your evenings in San Francisco, or France, or Dominican Republic like that? Or have you found that it’s the European way of life?

Dean:  France is very quiet - the evenings there are early evenings. The Dominican Republic, on the other hand, is also a Spanish culture. So, it is the first city in the Americas that the Spanish came to: Santo Domingo and the surrounding areas. So, that whole culture has kind of been adopted there as well.

So, the party lifestyle, the afternoon siesta, the gregariousness, that’s still there in the Dominican Republic but with a little bit of a Caribbean flare with nice tropical weather, with the palm trees and the coconuts. It’s easier for me to adapt to that. The California culture has incorporated a lot of Spanish speakers from Mexico, for one, but also other Latin countries.

I think for me it’s easier for me to adjust to both Spanish and Dominican Republic lifestyles than it is the French lifestyle which is a little quieter, a little more sedate.

Vicky:  So, coming from America you feel that you are prepared, somewhat, with your language skills when buying a property in Spain?

Dean:  Oh, absolutely, but I had a lot of help. I’m going to give a plug to my manager, Anne-Marie Vaughan, from Olvera Properties, and Zoe. I could not have done that without them. I think having that kind of resource, on the ground [is important.]

When you’re looking at buying a property, even if you understand the language to a large degree, you need somebody who is really proficient at it and also the buying and selling process because they know the ins and outs of the law and what the procedures are. Even if you knew the language and you came over looking for a property, unless you have somebody holding your hand you’re not really going to get through that without some great difficulty just by speaking the language.

Vicky:  Yes, I’d love to learn a little bit more about Olvera Properties. When you first went to them did you know what you were looking for? Did you know what your dream home in Spain would look like?

Dean:  I was looking online for many years before, and looking at the Pueblos Blancos, the white villages, the different ones that are nearby, like Zahara is also very attractive, but a little bit too small. The other cities that are nearby, some of them were a little bit too large. Some of them were not as attractive. They had some more industrial look to them, or were not quite as appealing to me.

Olvera seemed to fit the bill in being just right in size, busy enough. They say there’s ninety-nine bars and restaurants. I haven’t visited that many, but maybe I will in the future. They have enough bars restaurants, enough shopping to keep you interested. You don’t really need a car. You can walk around there.

Then it’s equidistant from both Seville and Malaga Airports – about an hour and fifteen to twenty minute drive. Also, it’s not too far from Cadiz, and from Córdoba and Granada these are also day trips. Ronda is a forty minute drive, but there are many other places near it. So, it was very well centered for me to visit other places and also get to the airports or maybe to the coast.

Vicky:  That sounds incredible, yes. Ninety-nine bars and restaurants is wow, wow, what a list to go through.

Dean:  I’ve only been to eighty-four. (laughter)

Vicky:  Close, you’re getting there.

So, you were talking about how before you saw quite a few properties in different cities and you found it wasn’t right for you. How did Olvera Properties adapt to what you were looking for throughout your process of researching for a home?

Dean:  Unlike a lot of realtors that I’ve talked to in the United States, rather than trying to sell the list of properties that they have, I think Anne-Marie listened to what I was looking for and showed me a cross selection of the kinds of homes I was looking for.

The one thing that anybody who is looking for property in these villages, is a lot of them are one off. That is that there are no two that are exactly alike. You’re not looking at, what we call in California, a tract home that’s been built by a builder where there’s always one plan and that’s suppose to suit everybody.

In this case each one has been either individually built or adapted so much over time that they’re really unique. So, one of the things that I was looking for was a nice view. I wanted two bedrooms. I had a one room with an office that I converted to the second bedroom with a second room, which was an office, to a bedroom. So, that was a good size for me.

I wanted to have a couple of levels with the terrace. But some of these homes have four or five levels so you’re up and down a little bit. So, I wanted a more one up, one down, the bedrooms upstairs the living room downstairs kind of approach.

Vicky:  And Anne-Marie was able to find what you were looking for?

Dean:  Anne-Marie is going to find whatever the clients are looking for. I think there’s a little bit of everything in Olvera.

If she doesn’t get it on the first time around, you should really spend, I would say a minimum of two or three days with solid hunting, on the ground: probably ten or twelve properties. In addition to Olvera there are some lovely villages nearby, that Olvera Properties can direct you to. Algodonales is a great town that’s near lake Zahara. Zahara is a lovely town. Pruna is nice and nearby. I’ve even see that they have a few properties in Ronda.

Ronda is a little bit bigger than I would care to be in, but certainly lovely. If you’re looking for a little bit more tourism and nightlife, Ronda is going to have it. Chica Le Dan Frontera; I think they go as far as that, but they don’t go to the major cities. So, if you’re looking more for city life, they may not cover it, but I think they are going to cover about everything else.

Vicky:  Yes, they have a vast amount of properties that they highlight to people and buyers. What channels did you initially use during your research?

Dean:  Well, I’m on the internet a lot. So, as we’re using this podcast, today, I’m fairly adept at finding cities. I can look at pictures. I found property companies that have their lists of properties available and I can preview those.

I settled on Olvera, so I really didn’t look at other towns other than Olvera. I think the only other one that would interest me would be Ronda, but it’s a little bit too big for me. So, just using the internet, there’s a lot of resources that you can find.

For the property in Dominican Republic, it’s a little bit more Americanized there. It’s closer to the U.S. So, they have some of the standard companies that we have in the United States that are realtors, that are national realtors, such as Remax and Century 21. So, I used them when I was in that country because of familiarity.

But the website that Olvera Properties has is well developed. You can shop there by the size of the rooms, you can shop by location, you can shop by the price starting at a price that is so low that really, it would be the price of a park here in the United States. You can own a cute little place, maybe a one bedroom or a studio, and have a nice little place, as you say, “bolt holes” for you to escape to during the colder weather, in the UK, and have a great holiday home in Spain with the lower cost of living and just have your little dream home for a very low price.

Vicky:  Yes, yes. It sounds like you have got your dream home. It’s fantastic. When you originally found Olvera as your choice that you stumbled upon on your research. What was the process like to organize a viewing trip to see the property?

Dean:  I think via email it was back to Anne-Marie. Between Anne-Marie and Zoe, they were very responsive. Once in a while they take a holiday back to the UK, but they’re always available, either one or the other, with a quick message back that they’ll be back in a week or so. The response from them, Anne-Marie and I work together still, with the property. She’s wonderful about getting back to me. I really couldn’t do any of this without her. It would be impossible.

Vicky:  What would you say would be the process of buying in a foreign country. I know you spoke of the language barriers before, and about Anne-Marie saying that she was incredibly helpful. Would you mind elaborating on what the experience was like of different legal, tax and finance systems?

Dean:  You do need an attorney to process the paperwork. There are the taxes. All the legalities really that I don’t know what they are, are just processed for you and she handles that either directly or through an interpreter.

You sit down with, what we call a Notary here in the United States. They do the paperwork for you and make sure that everything has been, as we say, cross the “Ts” and dot the “Is” so that the process is all fully legal.

One of the great things about Spain, or France is that you can actually own the property. So, when I started looking at this, you as a foreigner can legally own the property and not have it be either a ninety-nine year lease or be in somebody else’s name.

I’m single and I don’t necessarily want to get married to own a piece of property in another country. In many countries either that, or leasing it, is the only way you can do it. So, the legality of this, when you use an attorney or notary, by the time you’re done with the process you have legal title to the property. That’s huge for the security of having your paperwork that shows that you are the owner of the property.

Vicky:  So would you say that’s one of your highlights about owning a property in Spain, that it is yours and you have the flexibility of renting it out?

Dean:  I brag about it daily. So, showing pictures of my Airbnb property. I have a friend who just yesterday booked his flight and he’s going to come in August. I’m going to block that out on Airbnb. He and his family are going to come over. We’ll spend a week over there. I’ll probably leave after the first couple of days because there’s not room for all of us there.

But the joy of owning a property that you can share with family and friends, spend time, get away, and also rent out, in my case, has been a highlight. The property itself has done better than I thought it would do. I was very pleased with the first year.

It came furnished. So, there wasn’t a whole lot for me to do other than do a bit of decorating and adding a few things of my own, then convert the office into a second bedroom. It’s a delight for me when I’m over there. I enjoy it. I take my down time and really relax. But then there’s enough for me to do and go out and see things. In a given day I can get up in the morning and decide should I go to Cádiz and go to the beach? Or should I go to Ronda and do a little shopping? Or should I just sit at home and relax and read, or go out and have a few drinks?

The tapas places, the bars and restaurants are always a lot of fun and you go out and you meet a lot of expats. There’s a lot of other people in Olvera, and I’m sure that some of the other villages have the same. There’s a lot of Brits, people from Ireland, a few Australians and a few Americans. Even if you don’t speak that much Spanish you can get by and enjoy a wonderful holiday or even a lifestyle of living there and you can make some new friends.

Vicky:  That’s wonderful. I’m really happy for you that you’ve found a place that you can relax in and enjoy the scenery but also have the ability to go on incredible different day trips and also rent it out and have the possibility of having friends and family to stay, that’s wonderful. What would you say is a typical day for you in Spain?

Dean:  I get up a little bit later there than I normally do in the United States. I’m an early riser here, just too many years of working. So, I would say, sleeping in a little bit. The Spanish are not a big breakfast culture. So, I usually will have breakfast around eight or so and enjoy a little granola or some fresh fruit and then I go searching for my cup of coffee.

Vicky:  Is there a certain place where you hunt for your coffee every single morning? Or would you like to try the new places out there, the ninety-nine?

Dean:  Or so they say.

In Olvera the ones that I go to, there’s a lot of little corner bars and restaurants. Then the coffee shops they have a pretty good cup of coffee. The Spanish breakfast, I’m not a big breakfast eater but they do a tomato spread on toast. So, I think if you’re a Brit and you’re looking for the big British breakfast it’s going to have to be at home.

But, with that being said, the day would start with that, maybe just clean the house a little bit, tidy up. Mid morning I get out and I take a walk. By then either I’m heading out to do something in the area: see someplace that I haven’t seen before or just relax in the house, enjoy the sights, and walk the town. I do a lot of walking in town.

In Olvera you can pretty much walk anywhere in Olvera, even to the edge of the village, from my house, I would say within fifteen minutes. So, you do not have to have a car in Olvera, although I like the car because when I want to go to Cádiz, or Seville, or Ronda, or Malaga, for that you would need a car or take the bus.

Olvera does have a bus station. I would say there’s a couple of buses in and out every day, so you could actually get by, in Olvera, without your own private transportation or renting a car. Personally, I would want a car because I think there are just too many things to see and do, nearby, and on any given moment, if when I want to take off and go somewhere, I like that luxury and that sense of freedom. I am used to driving a lot in America and I think you don’t need to do that in Olvera, especially if you want to conserve on the cost of having a car or renting a car.

Vicky:  That’s fantastic that you have everything so close to you in proximity. You can go for a relaxed walk. You can go to the outskirts of town and have nature right on your doorstep. You’re embracing the European way of life, as well. Just everything so more relaxed, which is what you want, really, when you’re retired.

Dean:  Absolutely, there’s a trail called the Via Verde where you can rent bicycles or walk. I haven’t done it yet because the months I have been over have been July and August. You really wouldn’t want to be walking the Via Verde in thirty-five degree heat, in the middle of summer, it’s a little bit warm to be exposed like that. But if I come in a spring or fall time, I think it would be lovely to rent a bicycle and see the Via Verde.

There’s also an area that is not too far, that I would like to see, called El Caminito del Rey, which is a canyon where they have some pathways along the wall of the canyon and through train tunnels and that looks fascinating. I think that’s on the list for this coming summer.

Vicky:  That’s wonderful. What time of year do you normally visit?

Dean:  It has been summers. I want to be in California for the winters. Not that it’s not nice here. It’s a little cooler right now, or it’s starting to be. But the holidays are here starting for us, in October with Halloween. Our Thanksgiving is November, and then Christmas and New Years. I have children and grandchildren here. It’s a good time for me to reconnect with family and spend some time with them. I also have a home here, in California, so I want to spend a little time with friends and family for parts of the year.

So, I will generally be in California. I’m still discovering what are the best times to do this, but I’ll generally be in California for late October, November, December, January, February. In March I’ll take off and go on holiday, although most of my life is like a holiday now. In March I’ll take off and go see someplace new, either Asia or South America. Then, in April, after the Easter or Semana Santa in Dominican Republic, I will head down to the property there, which is also rented. The high season being from about now to Semana Santa. So, I will do that and then after that, for a couple of months, heading into summer to either Spain or France to start the season for the summer. So, I could be there anywhere, really, from May through October, I would say would be my timeframe.

Vicky:  Dean, that sounds incredible. I’m very jealous of your lifestyle right now.

Dean:  It’s a rock star lifestyle on pennies a day, as I like to say. The cost, I mean not that everything is about money, but the cost is a very viable lifestyle in Spain and even France is less than here, but the Dominican Republic, you know. Beers are two dollars a day U.S. In Spain, if you get the smaller size, it’s a buck and a quarter, or one and a quarter.

You’re never going to worry about your budget. It’s just not like here. Everybody here is stressed out. We’re Americans, right? It’s push, push, push in the U.S. and it’s one of our downsides, and I think Europeans know this, but we’re always chasing after the almighty dollar and I think once you’ve adopted the European lifestyle. You guys have long holidays that we don’t get. Once you’re over there every day is a joy. If you want to live a longer, happier life, I’d recommend buying property in Spain.

Vicky:  Then everyone adapts to that more relaxed atmosphere. I could say the same for here in London, as well. Everyone always has a fast paced mentality and as soon as you step out and embrace Europe and the slower pace of life I do feel that you sink your stress away.

With the renting out the property, do you think that allows you further flexibility with your budget?

Dean:  I think so. Part of it is I’m really trying to pay just for the properties to take care of themselves. If I broke even on them, personally, I would be OK with that, but they’re actually doing better than that. So, I don’t want to get too spoiled by counting on them for some steady income, but I am trying to stay away during the highest of the high season in all those properties.

So, for example, in France the property that I have is near Le Mans, which is the racecar capital of France. There are five or six races, so I rent them out during the races. So those weeks I get pretty decent income from them.

In Dominican Republic, the high season is late November to Semana Santa, and I will not go down during those times because the rental income from those times of the year is the highest. So, my business plan is to basically go in either low season or shoulder season and enjoy them in those times.

Shoulder season is beautiful. You can be in Spain, or France, or Dominican Republic, outside of maybe hurricane season in Dominican Republic, and thoroughly enjoy great weather, still lively culture, maybe a few less tourists, but you’re going to preserve most of your revenue to pay for the properties and also give you some additional revenue to enjoy the kind of lifestyle that I’m enjoying.

Vicky:  Yeah, that’s fantastic. When you say, when you’re not renting out your properties, do you have many friends and family that come visit, your children and your grandchildren?

Dean:  Well, that is a great question. Now, I’ve had three or four friends that have made reservations and cancelled. I have had three friends actually visit the house in Spain. But, I’ve had a few friends that had plans on coming, but they cancelled.

I think, for you. it’s a little bit easier because London, or from the UK to Spain there are lots of flights. It’s a shorter time frame. You could do it for a week vacation. But, the distance from California, it’s about a twelve hour flight. My children, they’re busy raising families, so it’s a little bit harder to get them to get over there, but at some point I’m sure they will.

Vicky:  Yes, the distance can be quite challenging, but I’m sure it will be worth in when they arrive in the end and be rewarded with the stunning scenery and the relaxed way of life Spain has to offer.

Throughout the whole process of researching a property, buying a property, is there anything that you would do differently next time?

Dean:  Absolutely not. It was fabulous. I don’t think there is anything I would change. Like I said before, Anne-Marie and Olvera Properties, I couldn’t have done it without them. They’ve made it very easy.

The property in France, unlike Spain, was an independent property and not managed. So, with Spain I’ve really got Anne-Marie on the ground to help beyond just the sale of the property. So, that’s huge, right? To have somebody who can, even if they’re not there on a daily basis, assist you with questions that you have. She’s been an angel for that.

There’s nothing that she can’t help you with that she doesn’t know about, being on the ground and living in Olvera, from, as you guys say, from soup to nuts. So, they cover all the aspects of it. You have a high sense of reliability with them and the confidence that I have with them is unparalleled in my experience with working with real estate agents either abroad or in the United States.

Vicky:  I’m happy to hear that Olvera Properties have the real inside information, both practically and culturally, that allowed you to find the property you were looking for. What advice would you finally give to friends and family or anyone else looking to buy in Spain?

Dean:  Buy now before prices go up. I think it’s a hidden treasure. There’s a comfort zone for most people when you step outside your own country, whether it’s the first time to buy property or you really just travel abroad, you’re not sure, "A," about the processes of finding the property, but also the legalities. Then just living abroad is different.

You either have to embrace it, and it’s not for everybody. I’m sure that there are people that just are never going to be able to do it because it’s outside their comfort zone. But, once you do, you have a sense of comfort and security with it, knowing the process, and then knowing that it’s really no different than doing things in your own country other than that some of the procedures are a little bit different. Then, you become an expert.

I would say to friends, for the price of the car you’re looking at, you could own a small house in Spain with a great view and a great location, go every summer and enjoy it and have a wonderful holiday home. Do it now before prices go up or before you’re in a situation where you can’t do it anymore: either you get too old, or the grand kids are around and you’re just locked in with seeing them every day. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it’s good to have a second home, somewhere else, just to give you a change of pace.

Vicky:  Yes, that’s lovely. A change of pace, and a new culture, and a whole new perspective of life, as you’ve highlighted in the podcast. Well, it’s been lovely to speak to you, Dean. I hope next time we do, you would have tried all the ninety-nine restaurants. That could be a test.

Dean:  I don’t know how many, but there’s enough. There’s one on every corner and maybe two on every corner. So, there are a lot of little bars and restaurants so there’s always something to do.

Outtro


Thank you for listening and thanks to Dean, as well, for sharing his experiences, and Olvera Properties, and especially Anne-Marie, for their help to make this episode possible

I really liked hearing how happy he is with finding his perfect location in Olvera, with the stunning mountain views, the ninety-nine restaurants and bars. He has still yet to try all of them, and the ability to take adventurous day trips regularly, just right on his doorstep as well.


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Mariela Amory 28th January 2019 - 2:52 am

Hi, I am also from California and will retire this year and would like to contact Dean to find out the transition from the US to Spain. Can you give him my e mail if that is ok so I can communicate with him..

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dawn at kyero.com 5th February 2019 - 10:54 am

Hello Mariela,

Thank you for contacting Kyero.

Yes we will pass your email to Dean, it is wonderful to hear that you are listening to the Podcasts.

I hope this helps but let me know if there is anything else we can do.

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